Apologies if I get anything wrong, and again everyone is more than welcome to share their own stuff here too.
Besides that, would anyone like me to make a thread for all the old BW splinter era and pre-1990 BGS photos I have? Between the two
I probably have a good 100+ or so that are just sitting in my reference folder otherwise. I can also make some for other countries like old
JSDF photos for example to keep my main item showcase threads more clear and save on some scrolling for people who are just interested in the items themselves.
Anyway, just a thought, here we go!
First up is a gorgeous, unissued brotbeutel. Dated 1963 IIRC. Cost me a pretty penny!
![BGS Stuff West_157](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_157.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_158](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_158.jpg)
The BGS canteen/cup set with its strange leather/vinyl? carrier. I think 74 is the date there, made by PSL.
![BGS Stuff West_160](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_160.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_161](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_161.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_159](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_159.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_163](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_163.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_162](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_162.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_164](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_164.jpg)
A pair of equipment straps, one made by MEGO in 1962 and the other by Larsen in 1963.
![BGS Stuff West_165](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_165.jpg)
A mess kit strap, not marked BGS so I think it's actually a BW one, but I have it with my BGS webbing you'll see here shortly.
Made by H. Rooge in 1970. I didn't take a comparison shot but the mess kit strap is slightly longer than the equipment straps, which will
not fit around the mess kit.
![BGS Stuff West_166](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_166.jpg)
FAL pouches. One was made by Max Stelzer, Berlin, in 1958, the other C. Riese, Berlin.
![BGS Stuff West_167](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_167.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_168](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_168.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_172](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_172.jpg)
![BGS Stuff 71693010](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/71693010.jpg)
![BGS Stuff 72301710](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/72301710.jpg)
![BGS Stuff 18918610](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/18918610.jpg)
A mess kit, made by HSZ in 1979. Taller than the BW one, with a thin middle lid/tray. The old JSDF Type 1 mess kit is nearly identical to this style, which I'll
share in a future thread about the old JSDF webbings and equipment.
![BGS Stuff West_170](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_170.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_169](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_169.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_171](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_171.jpg)
Suspenders/yoke, made by Max Stelzer in either 1967 or 1971, I think '71 by the way their stamps usually go but I'm not positive.
![BGS Stuff West_174](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_174.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_173](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_173.jpg)
Sumpftarn rain poncho, tag missing unfortunately.
![BGS Stuff West_175](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_175.jpg)
![BGS Stuff 72569210](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/72569210.jpg)
![BGS Stuff 51496010](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/51496010.jpg)
Rucksack, from Max Stelzer, Berlin, in 1955. Sadly quite worn with stains, a hole in the outer pocket, and one of the buckles
is missing from the left shoulder strap.
![BGS Stuff West_176](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_176.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_177](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_177.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_178](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_178.jpg)
![BGS Stuff 71710310](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/71710310.jpg)
![BGS Stuff 72083810](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/72083810.jpg)
A pair of shoulder boards for a "Meister Im BGS" (Master in BGS).
![BGS Stuff West_179](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_179.jpg)
A 1964 dated M53 Stahlhelm, with named/unit(?) written inside the liner. One end of the chinstrap was broken sadly as it is quite dried
out, so I fed and buckled over it to keep it in place. I also found the net for it later on, although the clips are quite rusted.
![BGS Stuff West_180](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_180.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_181](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_181.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_182](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_182.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_183](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_183.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_184](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_184.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Bgs_4110](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/bgs_4110.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Bgs_4210](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/bgs_4210.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Bgs_ra10](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/bgs_ra10.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Gefech10](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/gefech10.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Gelzin11](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/gelzin11.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Gelzin10](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/gelzin10.jpg)
The first sumpftarn coat I got, only pic I have right now. In quite poor condition, typical demilling cuts and missing buttons, tag, and even
the rear D-rings were cut off.
![BGS Stuff West_185](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_185.jpg)
My second coat, in much better but still demilled condition, dated Feb 1968.
![BGS Stuff West_186](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_186.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_188](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_188.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_187](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_187.jpg)
The sumpftarn parka with pile liner, in amazing condition save for some stitched up demil cuts across the sleeve pocket flap. Otherwise immaculate.
Hard to ask for better condition these days with how expensive these are now. This one is even in my size!
![BGS Stuff West_190](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_190.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_189](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_189.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_191](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_191.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_192](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_192.jpg)
![BGS Stuff 49_ans10](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/49_ans10.jpg)
![BGS Stuff 1977_d10](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/1977_d10.jpg)
![BGS Stuff 72483410](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/72483410.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Bgs10](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/bgs10.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Confer10](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/confer10.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Milita14](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/milita14.jpg)
And all the field equipment that I have together, on a regular leather BW parade belt standing in for the correct BGS web belt.
I have the poncho rolled up under the breadbag flap. I'm unsure however if the BGS used BW e-tools/carriers or if they had their own model
or used ones painted in their shade of forest green. Same goes for the GM54 gas mask/canister, unsure if they used regular BW issue ones or their own.
I currently lack the jackboots, green wool trousers, and the elusive sumpftarn zeltbahn to get this ensemble to a displayable level, unfortunately the last
zeltbahn I saw went for $350+.
![BGS Stuff West_195](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_195.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_194](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_194.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_193](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_193.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_196](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_196.jpg)
![BGS Stuff 71797910](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/71797910.jpg)
![BGS Stuff 15254710](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/15254710.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Gelzin14](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/gelzin14.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Gelzin12](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/gelzin12.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Gelzin13](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/gelzin13.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Gelzin15](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/gelzin15.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Gelzin17](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/gelzin17.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Gelzin16](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/gelzin16.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Gelzin20](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/gelzin20.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Gelzin18](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/gelzin18.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Gelzin19](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/gelzin19.jpg)
And lastly for now, just for fun, a couple of Sturm/Mil-tec items.
An M43 feldmutze, that feels like it was made out of a zeltbahn or perhaps the shoulder raincape material off a sumpftarn coat,
and an MA-1 cut jacket ("BGS Fliegerjacke" according to the tag) that seems like it might have been made out of original material,
albeit sewn horizontally.
![BGS Stuff West_197](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_197.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_199](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_199.jpg)
![BGS Stuff West_198](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/west_198.jpg)
![BGS Stuff Bgs_ma10](https://i.servimg.com/u/f43/18/57/18/41/bgs_ma10.jpg)
And that's all for now!
Enjoy!
-Nate