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    Post by Haydamaka Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:22 pm

    ripcord wrote:One thing not usually seen is the blouse worn tucked into trousers..


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    On this pic the blouses seem tucked into trousers, aren't they?

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    Post by ripcord Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:20 am

    Yes, it does looks like blouses are tucked into trousers in that photo as well as others.

    Seems this is done when operational. Not commonly seen worn that way in garrison.

    Also, I have not seen early type blouses being tucked in as they have front lower pockets that are lacking on the later types.

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    This following photo is most interesting as it shows both 2005 and 2009 types.

    The cut is the same but the pattern is different.


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    Post by Haydamaka Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:28 pm

    ripcord wrote:
    This following photo is most interesting as it shows both 2005 and 2009 types. The cut is the same but the pattern is different.
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    Thanks for very clear photo, it's beautiful!

    Anybody knows, is Italian army belt used to be worn with San-Marco camou pants?
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    Post by ripcord Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:02 pm

    Those are army buckles, Andy...   Not for navy .

    The army does have an amphibious regiment. They are called Lagunari..



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    Post by Haydamaka Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:10 am

    ripcord wrote:Those are army buckles, Andy...   Not for navy .

    The army does have an amphibious regiment. They are called Lagunari..

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    Thank you for clarification, Sal!

    I suspected this, that's why I asked!

    Do you have any picture of the appropriate Navy buckle?
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    Post by ripcord Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:29 pm

    Andy, Navy and San Marco type buckles.


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    Post by Haydamaka Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:06 pm

    Sal, thank you very much!!!!!
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    Post by ripcord Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:28 am

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    This following photo is most interesting as it shows both 2005 and 2009 types.

    The cut is the same but the pattern is different.


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    Correction..

    These are all 2005 type uniforms.  This is the last independent Naval type pattern before change to Vegetato types for all branches.
    Most of the differences are due to fading, but there were batches with dye problems that gave some a reddish hue as they faded.
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    Post by Haydamaka Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:55 am

    Hello Sal,

    Thanks for your info and correction!

    Could you please provide me with your opinion about two "San-Marco" jackets in the last posts here:

    https://iacmc.forumotion.com/t2780p50-san-marco-and-combusin-camouflage

    Thank you in advance!

    Best regards,
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    Post by ripcord Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:41 pm

    Hi Andy..

    Please take photos of the labels...You may need your ultraviolet light..

    They both look like they could be " Mediterranean" patterns..

    Try taking a photo of both blouses next to each other to see if there is a difference between them besides normal fading.
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    Post by Haydamaka Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:54 pm

    Hello Sal,

    Its a shame, but the "magic" UV-lamp doesn't work with these two jackets and labels.
    So it works, but not always... Rolling Eyes

    I can see only white label and almost no inscription, but (as far as I can read on the Jacket #1):

    SARCHI A BRUNI M
    TENUTA MIMETICA DE COMBATTIMENTO...
    TAGLIA ...?

    contratto del 10? 12 ? 96 ?

    Concerning jacket #2...
    Before the washing the first jacket had the similar tag from the  Post n°70
    (https://iacmc.forumotion.com/t2780p50-san-marco-and-combusin-camouflage):

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    Post by Haydamaka Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:13 pm

    Both jackets, next to each other:
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    Post by Haydamaka Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:14 pm

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    Post by Haydamaka Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:17 pm

    The difference between them:
    Chest pockets (with and without drain eyelets);
    Underarm area (with and without ventillation vents)
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    Post by ripcord Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:31 pm

    Interesting. Both are the Med "subtype"..

    What is more interesting is the fact that they look virtually identical despite being from different manufacturers and having contract dates that are some years apart.

    All of my MM/SM uniforms of this type have underarm ventilation and pocket metal grommets .
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    Post by Haydamaka Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:45 pm

    Thank you very much, Sal!

    Well done!!!!

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